Jack Swigert (CMP)

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Spoken on April 15, 1970, 1:19 p.m. UTC (54 years, 6 months ago). Link to this transcript range is: Tweet

Jim Lovell (CDR)

They have got a procedure for … the lithium hydroxide …

Jim Lovell (CDR)

… on secondary. We'll let it go to 15. Why don't you get on a headset, and I'll be down … for …

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Go ahead.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay Jack's up with me now and you all … procedure for making these lithium hydroxide devices, and soon as he gets on his helmet, he'll be ready to copy, and then he'll get started making one.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Roger that, Jim. Understand —

Jim Lovell (CDR)

I'll give Jack the headset for a while and he'll copy down your instructions.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jim. I didn't copy your second thought. Over.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Key moment Collecting materials to make the CO2 scrubbers: I'll give Jack the headset and let him copy the instructions.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jim. The way I thought it might be best to do it would be to have you gather the equipment and let us talk you through your procedure while you do it. Now, maybe you could give Jack the headset and—and—get the equipment together, and we'll talk you through the procedure. I think it'll be a little easier to do that way than if you tried to copy it all down—and then go do it.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. Do you have any equipment listed? I'll just get it and give it to him and I can just sit here where I am.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. I think the equipment you'll need will be two command module lithium hydroxide canisters, a roll of the gray tape, the two LCGs, because we're going to use the bags from the LCGs, and one—one LM cue card—one of those cardboard cue cards which you will cut off about an inch and a half out from the ring. Now, I think that's all we'll need. Over.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. … Okay, Houston.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. That's two lithium hydroxide canisters, one roll of that special gray tape, two LCGs which we're going to use the bags from, one LM cue card and …

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. That's affirmative, Jim. If you'll just cut the cue card, which is a handy piece of stiff paper the right size, about an inch and a half from the rings. Just cut off the ring holes, in other words, and you'll have a card about 11 inches long and probably 6 inches wide, something like that.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay, … I'll have Jack gather up the stuff.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

… that roll of gray tape.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

… Okay. … and … plastic bags.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Yes. Bring it down here. One LM cue card. I get that.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. I got the canisters.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay, Houston; Aquarius.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Yes. Aquarius, Houston. Go ahead.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

We have gathered the materials, and I can put Jack on the headset and he can copy the instructions copy it to give them to him, or do you think they're too detailed?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Why don't you put him on the headsets, Jim, and I'll read it out to him.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. Did anybody ever tell you that you got a 60-day extension on your income tax. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Yes. I think—I think somebody said that when you are out of your country, you get a 60-day extension.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay; right. Okay. I'm ready to start into the procedure. When you answer me back, speak up—speak up into the microphone, because our downlink is pretty noisy. The first thing we want you to do, and we'll do this on one canister, and then let you go ahead and repeat it on the second. So take one of the LCGs and cut off the outer bag. By cutting along one the heat seals; do it carefully and close to the heat seal, because we may have to use the outer bag if we damage the inner bag. So go ahead and do that, and then we'll do the next step.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Take an LCG, cut the outer bag by the heat seal. Be careful not to damage the inner bag. Right?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Right. Just cut along one side.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Hey, Houston, Odyssey—or Aquarius. We've done that.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. Now—now remove the inner bag from the outer bag, and cut the inner bag, also, along one of the heat seals down one side.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Remove the inner bag from the outer bag, cut the inner bag along the heat seal along one side.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. That's correct. Do that, and report.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Joe. We've got that done.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. Now you can put the LCG itself; that is, take it out of the inner bag, put it in the outer bag, and stow it some place; we recommend U-1, but you can stow it wherever it's convenient.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

… outer bag … I'd stow it back in …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Joe. We've got that.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. Now pick up one of the lithium hydroxide canisters, and let me describe which end is which. It's approximately square on one—one of the vented flat ends, has the strap, and that end we call the top, the end opposite we call the bottom. Is that clear? Over.