Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. I've got it, Joe.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. Now then, we're—we want you to take the tape and cut out two pieces about 3 feet long, or a good arm's length, and what you're—what we want you to do with them is to make two belts around the sides of the canister, one belt near the top and one belt near the bottom, with the sticky side out; wrap it around, sticky side out, as tight as possible. It'll probably take both of you to get it nice and snug. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Now we've got to make the belt real taut here.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Real tight. And then …

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. Did you have —

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— Hey, Houston, are you reading?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

— We've got the two belts around the top and the one around the bottom all done.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, fine. The next step now is to anchor that tape, and the way we want you to do that is to cut about a 2-foot length off the roll and then tear it lengthwise so that you have two strips about 2 feet long and about a half an inch wide. And you'll wrap those around the canister at right angles, more or less, to the tape that you've got so that it goes across the top and across the bottom; and when it goes across the top and the bottom, put it so that it's outboard of the center hole and try to get it over one of the ridges between the screens, so that it won't block the flow. Is that clear? Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. I've got a cut length right here and we'll tear it lengthwise … and I'm going to go around right here at this ridge all the way around at right angles and anchor it …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Joe, just to clarify that, sticky end down. Right? On the tape that I am putting on now?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

I didn't quite copy that, Jack. Say again.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. That will be the sticky end down on the container, right?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Oh, that's correct. I forgot to say that. That's right.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

… hold that one right here, if I can set it.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Joe; Aquarius. We've got that done.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. The next step is to get the EVA cue card and use it to form an arch over the top of the canister; just tuck one short end under one ridge on the top the other one against the ridge on the other side so that it forms a rounded arch over the top of the canister. You see, Jack, what we're going to do is slip the bag over this whole assembly and the cue card will serve to keep the bag from being sucked down against the screen. Over.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. And when you've done that, to hold the arch in place, just run a strip of tape across the side of the—that is, across the top of the arch, and anchor it down to the sticky strips along each side.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. I got the idea. Okay. Let me just repeat it here. Take a cue card, form an arch over the top, bringing it under the side here. When we're through, run a piece of tape from the sides across the top of that to anchor to the other side.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

The top. … Across the top.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Looks like you're going to have to cut the cue card slightly.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Doesn't have to be really … over that the only thing we're … we can just take the scissors and cut off the edge here. The only thing this does, Jim, is prevent this from being sucked down into the container.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Still going to need some more tape. Cut off the end. Okay. Whack off the bottom. …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Joe. We've got that arch built, and it's all taped in securely.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. The next step is to stop up the bypass hole, which is the hole in the center of the bottom of the canister; we want to stop that up because we don't want to bypass the flow; and I forgot to tell you to get something to stick in that hole. We recommend that you either use a wetwipe, or cut off a piece of sock and stuff it in there, or you could probably even crumble up some tape and use that. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. We'll start plugging up the bypass hole.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Plug that hole. We can either—we can put some either—Let's cut a piece of your towel there.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Houston; Aquarius. We have the bypass hole all plugged up.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Aquarius. The next step is take the inner LCG bag that you cut open, and slip it over the top of the canister, when you do that, orient it so that the ears of the bag, that is, the corners should stick out on the closed end—are oriented along the open ends of the arch, because we're going to snip one of those corners to stick the hose in. Pull it down until it fits snugly over the arch. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Joe. Slip the bag over the canister so that the arch is at the bottom of the bag and that the ears are along oriented along, let's see—I guess it would be—would be at the sides of the arch.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Depends on what you mean by sides—over the—the open ends of the arch.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Right, the open ends of the arch.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Joe. We've got that done.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. Now press the bag against the sticky belts that we put on the sides of the canister. If there is any excess material, just kind of pleat it, so that it makes a fairly tight seal, and then take another 3-foot strip of sticky tape and wrap it around the outside of the bag opposite the bottom—the bottom sticky belt—to make a nice tight seal.

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Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. I'll do it. Okay. Now they want two strips around here to make a tight seal.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Joe. We've got the canister inside the bag, two strips around the sides of the bag, real tight, and both sealed.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay; real fine. Now there's probably a couple of inches of excess bag sticking our around the bottom of the canister. To prevent this from sucking in against the bottom screen, we'd like you to trim it off with the scissors, and when you've done that, we'd like you to cut two more strips of tape about 12 inches long or so, cut the—tear them lengthwise to get four pieces 12 inches long and 1/2-inch wide, and then use those four strips to secure the bag by passing the strips from the sides of the canister outside the bag around the bottom of the canister and back up the other side, and when you do this, just as you did on the top, make them go outboard of the hole and in between the screens. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. You want me to trim the excess material that's sticking off here; trim it at the edge of that canister? Or do you want any excess left over?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

No, you don't need to have any excess. Just trim it approximately level.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Let's do that first.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Now, Joe, you want to cut four strips, 12 inches long each, 1/2-inch in diameter. Tape that along the outsides of the bag across the ribs.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

That's correct, Jack. That's just for additional security on the bag. When you get those done, you'll have—You'll have two strips going one way, and the other two will be perpendicular to them.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Houston; Aquarius. We've got the four strips in place.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. We're in business now with the bag, and the next step to perform is to get ready to put the red suit hose, either the commander's or the LMP's because we're—we're going to want you to have both of these made up eventually, into the top of the—of the bag, and to do that you, first of all, have to assure that the—that the red hose is separated from the blue hose. I don't know whether this has been done already, but if it hasn't, what you have to do is cut the outer Beta-cloth sheath down the full length of the—of the hoses and then also cut the rubber ties that secure the two hoses together, and the hoses should come apart and the COMM cable should—should come off. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Take the —I'm going to want to separate the red hose from the blue hose by cutting this Beta-cloth sheath. Okay. That's in work.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Houston; Aquarius. I have the LMP's red hose separated from the others.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. Real fine. Now the next step is to cut a diagonal hole in one ear of the—of the plastic bag near the arch. You can pick either one and cut about, a 1-1/2 or 2 inch diagonal hole, big enough to slip the red hose through. And when you've done that, you'll just slip the red hose through so that it goes about to the center of the canister. It's—it's—It's not critical except that the opening should be down, and then tape the bag to the hose where it goes in so that it's nice and snug. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Copy that. We want a 1-1/2 inch hole right here at this ear, and put the hose in here, end down and toward the canister and then we tape the seal around here.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Let's try it. We can always make it bigger if we have to. Fred, get those. … the center of the arch.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Got to—Got to come in towards the center, all the way to the center. No, no.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Yes. I can't get those big knobs.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Key moment The crew completes their first 'mailbox': … All we have to do is … tape around here … tight fit. …

Jim Lovell (CDR)

There it is right there.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Houston; Aquarius.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Go ahead.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Our do-it-yourself lithium hydroxide canister change is complete. Joe, the only thing different is that our arch on this piece of cardboard is not big enough to position the red hose with the inlet down, and the inlet—the inlet to—to the red hose is lying on its side, but I think it'll still work.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. I concur. I think it'll work, too. There's one step that I omitted, which you can do now quite conveniently, and it's this. Where you stuff the towel in the bypass hole on the bottom, we recommend that you cut a few short pieces of tape and just tape that over so it doesn't fall out. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Will do. Jim, I've got one more little thing to do, and that's … seal that top.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Joe. That's done.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. Now the remaining steps are simply suit-loop configuration steps to get this thing into full operation, and our ECS people want to hold off on that until the canister you're working on gets to 7.6 millimeters of mercury, which will probably be another 45 minutes or an hour—it—We're reading 4.7 now. So what we'd like you to do in the interim is to set up the second command module canister the same way you just did the first one, using the commander's hose, and get that all set and probably about that time it'll be time to—to switch over. For your information, when you've got that done and if you've had your breakfast and so on, the next thing I've got for you is a switch-configuration list for the command module, which will represent the—the powerdown, square-1 starting configuration for all our—our preentry checks. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. We'll start setting up the commander's hose configuration the same as the LMP's hose. And I'll get—instead of—I guess you want me to use my launch …—launch checklist which I'd …

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

That's affirmative, Jack. What we have done is marked up the lift-off configuration checklist, and we'll run through it whenever you get around to it.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

And, I assume that …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

What I'd better do is before I put this thing back in operation, they're going to complete that other canister. I don't know. It should be in operation now. …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Houston; Aquarius.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Joe. Should this canister be in operation now because it's already mounted on the hose?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Well, yes. We haven't completely configured the suit loop to get full flow through there, and it's okay the way it is. What I recommend you do with the commander's hose is get the bag all ready, but not stick the hose in until we call you on it. Okay.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Yes. Or else a strip of tape.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Jim. We've got to start setting up the commander's. …

Jim Lovell (CDR)

You can get one of the cards, and I'll start cutting the … bag.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Yes. … show. How about that … because I've got two in my …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Yes. Here, we'll store them back where I got it.

Tom Stafford

Hello, Aquarius; Houston.

Tom Stafford

Roger, Jack; Tom here. Just thought I would pass on to you and Jim that got a little data priority going today, and going to convene to CPCB and we'll have you all kinds of good procedures for later on. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Thank you, Tom. You guys are really working overtime.

Tom Stafford

We're getting a little coordination down here.

Tom Stafford

Aquarius, Houston. You might pass on to Jim, he had such a long day yesterday, we thought we were going to have to play him some guitar music to get him to sleep last night. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

That's exactly what he did. Tom said you had such a long day yesterday, he thought he was going to have to play some guitar music to get you to sleep.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Let's get this tape around the outside.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Kind of looks like the Earth has gotten kind of angled a little bit, but it's, for as many hours as …, I think it's been great. You know how to do this? How? … the terminator.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Now we got to get two strips … tight.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Tom said the CPCB is getting …

Jim Lovell (CDR)

… he's never been through a command module activation.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

That looks good. Now we got trim up that extra.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

… Well, I don't really—Part of that is—See, Jim, I have the same problem that you have. I can't control pitch very well with my RHC—I have to use the THC and that was the control problem. No, I don't think that there's any control problem. I don't know why, because—Well, you have to … … you still have barber pole on the—on the …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

… Oh, wait a minute; I'm sorry I didn't see it. …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

I'll tell you, why don't you put—under your restraining cable; just stow it under your restraining cable there. And that will keep, then, until we're ready for them.

Fred Haise (LMP)

… there's an orange in yours.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Yes, I've got to get the launch checklist. And we're going to go over initial switch configuration. And get all those …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

I kind of have an idea that as soon as we hit darkness, we'll be doing a P51, P52. Hope we're going to be …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

When you get through, you could get me that R—the checklist up in R-3 …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay; Houston; Aquarius.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Go ahead.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Joe, I'm ready to start on that command module switch configuration. That's on page L 1-1.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. Understand you are ready for the switch configuration checklist. And I have in front of me the lift-off configuration, page L 1-1. Are you with me? Over.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. I'll read these in bunches of three or four at a time, some of them are the same, some of them are changed, and you can read them back every few steps. EMS FUNCTION to OFF; EMS MODE to STANDBY, no change; GTA, off, down, no change; and GTA cover, secure, no change. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. EMS FUNCTION, OFF, MODE, STANDBY, GTA, off; GTA cover secure.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Roger. CMC ATTITUDE to IMU, no change; FDAI scale, 5/5, no change; FDAI SELECT number 1; and FDAI SOURCE, GDC. Over.

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Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. CMC ATTITUDE, IMU; FDAI scale, 5/5; FDAI, select 1; SOURCE GDC. Hey, what you do is just read the ones that have the changes, Joe, and I'll read back to you, everything, where you stop.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay; fine. The next one that changes is three down, where we go, “MAN ATTITUDE PITCH to RATE COMMAND.” Over.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. The next one, two, three, four are unchanged. And then we want TRANSLATION CONTROLLER POWER to OFF, ROTATION CONTROL POWER NORMAL, two, to OFF; and ROTATION CONTROL POWER DIRECT, two, to OFF. Over.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. The next two are unchanged. And we want the 3 BMAG switches in RATE 2. Over.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. The next one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight are unchanged, and we get down to the ELS AUTO switch which we want in MANUAL. Over.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. And we want CM RCS LOGIC, OFF, down, and the rest of the page is unchanged. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Let me read back the whole page.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

EMS FUNCTION, OFF; MODE, STANDBY; GTA, down; GTA cover, secure; CMC ATTITUDE, IMU; scale, 5/5; FDAI SELECT, 1; SOURCE, GDC; ATT SET, GDC; MANUAL ATTITUDE ROLL, PITCH, YAW, RATE COMMAND; LIMIT CYCLE, OFF; DEADBAND, MIN; RATE, HIGH; THC POWER, OFF; ROTATION CONTROL POWER NORMAL, two, OFF; ROTATION CONTROL POWER DIRECT, two, OFF; SPACECRAFT CONTROL, SCS; CMC MODE, FREE; BMAG, ROLL, PITCH, YAW …

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Jack, Houston. You are not coming through. And request you talk a little more directly into the mike. I've got the BMAGS in RATE 2. And start from there. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

SPS thrust to NORMAL; DELTA-V thrust, two, OFF; SCS TVC PITCH and YAW to AUTO; SCS gimbal MOTORS PITCH and YAW OFF; DELTA-V/CG, LM/CSM; ELS LOGIC, OFF; ELS AUTO to MANUAL; CM RCS LOGIC OFF, down; CM PROPELLANT DUMP, OFF; PROPELLANT PURGE, OFF; IMU CAGE, OFF; EMS ROLL and .05g, OFF.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. That's 100 percent, Jack. Let's go to page 2. And we start with alpha Pc to Pc, and LAUNCH VEHICLE/SPS INDICATORS to GPI. Over.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. The next three are unchanged. And then the EVENT TIMER START to STOP. Over.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. The next ones, on panel 1 are unchanged, and on panel 2, go all the way down to SM RCS propellant talkbacks, and in parenthesis scratch out “eight,” and put “four to gray,” and then pencil in a line “SM RCS propellant talkbacks, four, to barber pole.” Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Let me ask you. SM RCS propellant talkbacks, four, barber poles. And you want the switches? And you think …?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

I guess that's the config—Stand by 1, and I'll check that.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. The switches all remain in their present position, which is center, but we—Because we have no power on the bus, the bottom row of talkbacks will be spring loaded to the barber pole position and that's for your information. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Oh, that's right. Oh, I knew that. I'm not thinking too well.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. Now the next one, two, three, four, five are the same, and we want EDS AUTO to OFF. Over.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. The next three are the same, and then we want PROPELLANT DUMP to RCS COMMAND; 2 ENGINE OUT to OFF and LAUNCH VEHICLE RATES to OFF. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Let me read back the whole page.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Alpha/Pc to Pc; LAUNCH VEHICLE SPS INDICATOR to GPI; TVC GIMBAL DRIVE PITCH and YAW to AUTO; EVENT TIMER RESET, up; EVENT TIMER START to STOP; EVENT TIMER MINUTES, SECONDS to center; POSTLANDING VENT valve, push; PROBE EXTEND/RELEASE to OFF; EXTEND/RELEASE talkbacks, two of them, gray; DOCK PROBE RETRACT, PRIMARY and SECONDARY, off; extend RUNNING LIGHTS/EVA LIGHTS, OFF; extend RUNNING LIGHTS—RENDEZVOUS LIGHT, OFF—got to get a—there you go—TUNNEL LIGHT, OFF; LM POWER LIGHT, OFF; SERVICE MODULE RCS Helium, four, center; HELIUM 1 talkback, four, gray; UP TELEMETRY COMMAND MODULE and IU to BLOCK; COMMAND MODULE RCS PRESSUREs, off; SERVICE MODULE RCS INDICATOR, PROPELLANT QUANTITY; SERVICE MODULE RCS Helium 2, four, center; HELIUM 2, four, talkbacks, gray; SERVICE MODULE RCS HEATERS, four, OFF; SERVICE MODULE RCS PROPELLANT, four, center, on, up; SERVICE MODULE PROPELLANT talkback, four, gray, and four, barber pole; RCS COMMAND, center; RCS TRANSFER, center.