- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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I'm not sure I copied that, Fred. If you asked me whether I had that powerup procedure, I don't have it for you, yet. Over.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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Gol darn it. Just as you started talking, it got noisy again, Fred; try it again.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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Oh. Our little plot shows you just touching the 180-thousand-mile line. So you're about 40 K out from the Moon.
- Fred Haise (LMP)
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Okay. Okay. And the other thing is, we've noticed some fresh new particles floating around outside, so possibly the service module is starting to vent a little bit again.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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Okay. Copy that, Fred. On the O2 flow thing, we clearly saw the DEMAND REGULATOR go to OFF and back to CABIN. TELMU thinks that it's no big thing that you've seen a little change in flow due to the different resistance we've got in the circuit.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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Okay, Fred. Recommend you go to OFF on the BIOMED switch. We never did get any BIOMED and it might clear up the COMM a little bit.
- Jack Swigert (CMP)
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That midcourse should be interesting. You know, the mode we're going to do it in.
- Jack Swigert (CMP)
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We can't help them too much. Actually it isn't bad … but … … goddamned unfortunate. In part, I get a feeling … now when I get … Just before … goes to zero in 1 second I'm going to pull them out …
- Fred Haise (LMP)
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Well, hell, Jack. All you—you don't use a very good one … Just if you'll go … at your attitude reference for … and the g-meter backup. Because, really, you can almost … The command module and your odds are 60 to 40 that you're going to hit Earth blunt-end first, without any reference.
- Jack Swigert (CMP)
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… I didn't realize that. That proves you've got a little bit above 50-percent odds that you're going to enter blunt end, and -
- Fred Haise (LMP)
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We made an entry like that in Apollo 8 in a … with Houston, ol' Buzz went and turned on the command module heaters and left them on. The activators, they went, “Shooo!” both tanks; we had no gas. Just had a real slow rate … We actually went out in the console and started debriefing, but left it running and watched it; and the son of a bitch did a hop-skipout, a hopout, underneath …, but not much, and then we did a long hop … but—The second reentry, also, it did one … both times. It lucked out twice and made a real peculiar … They went to zero g …
- Fred Haise (LMP)
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Okay, Joe. It—Our wobble in this PTC has picked up where the Moon is running by pretty high in the window and the Earth pretty low; so I expect—On the side where the Moon's present, we're having a little bit of trouble with the COMM … breakout there in a couple of places.
- Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay, Joe. I'm all set to copy that procedure for powering up the command module from the LM, whenever you want to give it to me. When did you, I guess you want to put battery A out of the CHARGE, huh?
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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Jack, we're not certain when the best time is to implement this procedure, and what we want to do at this time is read it up to you, so you'll have it and understand it and we'll—We'll be able to do it quickly when the time comes. And I don't have it for you quite yet. Over.
- Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Joe, I got to switch antennas here. Okay, Joe, I read you on the FORWARD antenna.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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Okay, Jack, I have the procedure now to read up to you. Before I do, I want to mention something that will be of interest to Fred. We are looking at the SHe tank pressure rise and we expect it to blow. We don't know exactly what time it will go, somewhere around 105 hours or perhaps later than that. We've got plenty of blowdown capability. We just thought you ought to be informed.
- Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Fred, they said they're looking at the SHe tank pressure rise, and they expect it to blow somewhere around 105 hours … Okay. Fred thought they did. …
- Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Yes. Joe, how long is it? Is it a big long one, or a short one, or a medium sized … about how many pages?
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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It's about—I'd say 15 to 20 steps, Jack. Some of it is LM stuff, and the rest of it is in CSM.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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Okay. I'll give you the LM steps first. They have to be done first, and the first step is on panels 11 and 16, circuit breakers ASCENT CA, ASC ECA, two to close.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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Okay. That's correct. The next step is BAT 5 and 6 NORMAL FEED to high; those are switches.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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That's correct. Now we'll go to the CSM, and the first step there is connect LM/CSM umbilical. Over.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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Okay. The next step, on panel 5, CB LM POWER-1 MAIN B and LM POWER-2 MAIN B, both, closed. Over.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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That's correct. Next step, panel 250: CB BAT C POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING; closed. Over.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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That's Charlie. Verify MAIN BUS voltage; then, LM POWER switch on panel 2 to CSM. Over.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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Okay. That's correct. Then go back to 275, CB MAIN B BAT BUS B to open. Hey, Jack, that's the step I skipped for you, I'm afraid. Before verifying MAIN BUS voltage, you have to, on panel 275, close CB MAIN B BAT BUS B. Over.
- Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. After putting the BATTERY B POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING on, then I want to push the—on panel 275 MAIN B to BAT BUS B in, huh?
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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That's right. Then you go to verify MAIN BUS voltage, LM POWER to CSM, and then, on panel 275, circuit breaker MAIN B BAT BUS B to open. Over.
- Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. After verifying the MAIN BUS voltage connecting the LM POWER to CSM I want to pull MAIN B BAT BUS B, or MAIN B to BAT BUS B, open.
Expand selection down Contract selection up - Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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That's correct. And then on panel 250, circuit breaker BAT B POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING to open, and verify MAIN BUS B voltage.
- Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. Panel 250 BAT B POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING, open, and then verify the MAIN BUS voltage.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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Okay. That's correct. The last steps are to get the LM back on descent batteries. The first step is BATs 1, 2, 3, and 4, HI VOLTAGE, ON. Over.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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That's correct. That should configure you. Note that circuit-breaker protection on that circuit limits the available current to 15 amps. We think we can do quite a bit with it though. And the LM/CSM umbilical will be hot and MAIN BUS voltage may be monitored by selecting MAIN B on the gage. Over.
- Fred Haise (LMP)
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Okay. While Jack was on COMM, I was looking out the docking window here, and I could see another good shower of particles coming out of the service module. And the position this time appears to be on the other side. Before, we'd always seen them out of window 1, and where I'm looking at it from here, it looks like it'd be down below window 6 somewhere in the service module. Jack's going upstairs to see what it looks like up there.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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Okay. Good deal. We copy that, Fred. And to show you how relaxed we are about the entry, Ken is looking at—giving you guys a chance to—prior to going into entry, PREP to snap a few pictures of the service module.
- Fred Haise (LMP)
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Oh, I thought maybe you'd want me to do a PLSS EVA to go shoot pictures or something.
- Fred Haise (LMP)
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I guess I agree it surely would be nice to document it someway if we can, but it doesn't look like …
- Fred Haise (LMP)
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Brings up another possibility. Now that we've got all of that stowed into the bags and the condensate can, we could probably blow all of that through the PLSS …, I wonder how the sublimator would work on waste water.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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It might work if we had to do it, Fred. Right now we're looking at a comfortable excess of water through the sublimator. We were talking among ourselves this morning about having you try out the PLSS to ascent tank water-transfer situation and we decided not to do it, not to recommend it, because we figure it'd take us 30 hours to empty one of the ascent tanks, which you have to do in order to get PLSS water to it, and we'd rather use the descent water and we don't think we've gotten any sweat. Over.
- Fred Haise (LMP)
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Okay, Joe. I don't think there's any question about it from the plumbing standpoint that we could do that if we had to.
- Fred Haise (LMP)
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I think our PTC wobble is growing worse. The Earth now is really up to the top of the window. I have to get way down almost to the floorboards to view it. Conversely, the Moon is way down at the bottom of the window.
- Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)
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Okay. Copied that, Fred. And our thermal people will be looking at it. One of the things we're talking about relative to the midcourse correction is we'd like not to do it before the SHe tank goes, if it's going to go, just so it won't give us a problem reestablishing PTC. And right now our people think that the burst disk will pop around 106 hours.
Spoken on April 15, 1970, 6:15 p.m. UTC (54 years, 6 months ago). Link to this transcript range is: Tweet