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Charlie Duke
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Okay. Turning to the next page and the last page, Jim, 34. Top of the page, “Monitor DELTA-VX via 470.” Scratch next two lines, “When propellant quantity equals 37” and the “DESCENT HELIUM REG.” Scratch “TTCA commander, reduce to 10 percent.” Now we want you to add a line; “shut”—It's a shutdown criteria, “shutdown on burn time minus 1 second.” Over.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay, “The shutdown is on burn time minus 1 second.” Let me give you an example. If we have a 30-second burn, we're going to shut down at 29 seconds. Is that correct?
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Charlie Duke
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That's affirmative. We'll give you the pad, be coming up here from FIDO in a couple of hours, I guess, when we stabilize out on our tracking. The reason for—If you're ready to copy out a couple of more steps, and then I'll explain the reason we want to shut down on this burn time minus 1 second. Picking up on "When DELTA-VX —
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Charlie Duke
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“— When DELTA-VX equal to the final DELTA-VX,” scratch that line. Scratch “ATTITUDE CONTROL: YAW, to PULSE.” Add—Correction, scratch “Damp excessive rates via LM Y, Z translation” and add at that point “Null” error needles. Trim address 470 to 0.1 foot per second." Over.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay, going through. After the “Shutdown on burn time minus 1 second,” we scratch the next line; and we scratch “ATTITUDE CONTROL: YAW, to PULSE”; we scratch “Damp excessive rates via LM Y, Z translation”; we add the line “Null” error needles, trim—Null the error needles and trim address 470 to—What was the value there, Charlie?
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Charlie Duke
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“0.1 foot per second.” The reason we are shutting down on the burn time is, since the ASA breaker has been out for so long, we're not real confident that our AGS PIPAs are going to be super-sharp. So we want to make sure that we just get a burn time—no overburn; so we're shutting down on burn time minus 1 second. And then that will allow us a plus-X translation to trim 470 if it looks okay. If we had an overburn, we'd be in —
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Charlie Duke
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— if we had an overburn, we'd be impinging on our command module to try to trim it out, so that's our reasoning there. Over.
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Charlie Duke
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Okay. Picking up in the middle of the page, that—a block “CMS resume attitude control,” scratch. Scratch the next line; “PRO VERB 96.” Scratch the third line; “PROPELLANT QUANTITY MONITOR, OFF.” Over.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay. We'll scratch the blocks, and we'll scratch the “PRO VERB 96”; then we'll scratch “PROPELLANT QUANTITY MONITOR, OFF.”
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Charlie Duke
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Roger. Now, at the bottom of that page, I have a procedure for you to reestablish PTC. Over.
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Charlie Duke
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Okay. First line, “ATTITUDE CONTROL, three to PULSE”; line 2, “Roll with the TTCA until attitude is roll, plus or minus 90; pitch, 0; yaw, 0.” Over.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay. Step 1, “ATTITUDE CONTROL, three to PULSE”; 2, “Roll with the TTCA … pitch is 0 and yaw is 0,” and I think that will be on the AGS ball.
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Charlie Duke
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That's affirmative. You broke up there for a minute, Jim. We'll do that on the AGS ball from the burn attitude. We just want you to roll either way 90 degrees, keep pitch 0 and yaw 0. Now, step 3; “When at—when at attitude, ACA out of detent.” Step 4; “ATTITUDE CONTROL: YAW, to MODE CONTROL. When rates are less than 0.05, ATTITUDE CONTROL: YAW, to PULSE.”
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay, Charlie. Can you hold up here a second? I lost you.
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Charlie Duke
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That's Roger. Next step, step 4: “ATTITUDE CONTROL to YAW”—Correction, “ATTITUDE CONTROL: YAW, to MODE CONTROL.” Over.
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Charlie Duke
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Roger. Step 5: “When rates are less than 0.05 degrees per second, ATTITUDE CONTROL: YAW, to PULSE.”
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay. “When rates are less than 0.05 degrees per second, ATTITUDE CONTROL: YAW, to PULSE.”
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Charlie Duke
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Roger. Step 6: “Spin up to 0.3 degree per second in yaw,” and that takes about 21 pulses. Step 7—Yes.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay. Step 6 was “Spin up to 0.3 degrees per second in yaw”; that's about 21 pulses. Step 7 was “MODE CONTROL, AGS, to OFF.”
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Charlie Duke
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That's affirm. Step 8: “Power down per power”—Correction, “Power down per contingency checklist page Power 5.” Over.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay. And step 8 is Power down per contingency checklist Power 5," and I take it that's been revamped considering our situation. Okay.
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Charlie Duke
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That's affirmative, Jim. That's the one we gave you last night after the big burn, and we'll use that one as modified by—by us. This—we tried this PTC under AGS in the simulator and, of course, no slosh or anything, but it seemed to work pretty good by nulling the rates using the TTCA in pitch and roll and letting the ACS do it in yaw. You null the rates by looking at the error needles and just watching those, and when they don't—when they stop moving, then you got it within the limits of what we want. Over.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay. And I guess, Charlie, you have no—Do you have a ATT hold mode in pitch and roll at all in this configuration we're in, or do we have to use the TTCA?
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Charlie Duke
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We feel like we have to use the TTCA. The AGS gains are not too good in pitch and roll in this configuration. It'll hold it in yaw but it won't in pitch and roll. Over.
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Charlie Duke
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And you'll have—During the burn, of course, you'll be controlling pitch and roll via the error needles with the TTCA also, and it's the little scheme that we've practiced in some of the SIMs. Over.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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And, Houston, want to make sure that we allow enough time to get to the proper attitude for the burn so that we can be sure we establish the proper attitude and don't have to rush the burn.
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Charlie Duke
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Roger, Jim. We -we're looking right now, tentatively, at starting this about 45 minutes before the burn and our sensitivity is—not too bad on this burn. We can go 30 minutes either way and not affect our DELTA-V. Over.
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Charlie Duke
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It's looking like at about 7.8 seconds and about 15—Correction, 7.8 feet per second and about 15 seconds. Over.
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Charlie Duke
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And one other point is that we'd like to remind you that this is going to be in blowdown and both REGs B closed but we've got plenty at the 10 percent.
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Charlie Duke
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And, Jim, in the simulator with our configuration that we had here, the thing is real stable at 10 percent, so we don't think you'll have to tweak very much at all using the TTCAs. Over.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Jim, regarding your number 2 battery, we think that it's probably a sensor failure, a temperature sensor failure that's caused this alarm, rather than an actual overtemp of the battery; the reason being that we haven't seen any higher temperatures in the glycol loop. We expect to put the battery back on about 101 hours. That'll be about 10 minutes, and then we'll look at it some more there. Over.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay. Concerning number 2 battery, you think it might be a sensor failure because you haven't seen any changes, and you're going to put the battery back on the line in about 10 minutes.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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For information, Vance, about a half hour ago, I guess, Jack and I couldn't see constellations at certain spacecraft attitudes, stars. We could see the—Scorpio and Sagittarius and we could see Altair or Acrux and Alpha Centuri, Vega, stars of that magnitude, and our venting has stopped which allows us now to differentiate between the particles and the stars.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Roger; copy. Understand you can see the stars pretty well. Were you, at that time, in an attitude facing away from the Sun? I presume this is very attitude critical.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Yes. It is somewhat, Vance. If we have the Sun shining off the quads, it sort of ruins our vision; and also, if the Earth or the Moon are in the general field of view, we can't see anything.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Jim, we're ready to put that battery back on the line. Request you open the CROSS TIE BAL LOAD circuit breaker, panel 16, and then put back—BAT 2 back on the line.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay. The CROSS TIE BALANCE LOAD circuit breakers is in now, Vance. Now you want us to put battery 2 back on. Is that affirm?
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Copy. And—and we think that's probably an indication of the sensor problem, but stand by.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Jim, it looks to us like your battery is good, that this is in fact a sensor problem; therefore, request you close the CROSS TIE BAL LOADs on—circuit breaker on panel 16. Advise —
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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— advise that you will not have any malfunction indication on any of your batteries now, but we can watch it from the ground. Over.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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That's closed, and we don't have any warning on any of the batteries, but you can monitor from the ground.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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And, Jim, we have a lengthy procedure here for powering up the CSM and turning on instrumentation so we can check the TM, and this will take a large piece of scratch paper whenever you're ready to copy.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay. I'll tell you what, I'll have Jack get configured. He can copy that down and I'll have him—we'll get the stuff. Stand by.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. Yes, it's pretty cool. This is the third officer on this LM crew here. Ready to copy.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. Jack, this is a lengthy procedure, take probably two or three pages. It assumes that you are in your nominal configuration, which was sent up—or in your day-flying configuration, which was sent up to you earlier today.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. I can verify that we are in that configuration with the exception of panel 382, the water accumulator, which I've left off in case we wanted to get some more drinking water out of the command module, and I'll put those in the proper configuration before we do anything.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. Panel 4: TELCOMM, GROUP 1, to AC1. Panel 5: close the following circuit breakers: ECS, PRESS GROUP 1, MAIN B; ECS, PRESS GROUP 2, MAIN B; ECS, TEMP, MAIN B; ECS, SECONDARY LOOP TRANSDUCER, MAIN B; ECS RAD, CONTROL/HEATERS, MAIN B; BAT RELAY BUS, BAT B; BAT CHARGER, BAT B, CHARGE—or to B, CHARGE; INVERTER CONTROL, 2; INVERTER CONTROL, 1; EPS SENSOR SIGNAL, AC1; EPS SENSOR SIGNAL MAIN B; EPS SENSOR UNIT, AC BUS 1; WASTE/POTABLE WATER, MAIN B; INSTRUMENTS, ESS, MAIN B; that's ESSENTIAL, MAIN B. Are you with me?
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay, sounds good. Because I don't know where I—how far I lost you. Okay, panel 4; TELCOMM, GROUP 1, to AC1. On panel 5, close the following circuit breakers: ECS, PRESSURE GROUP 1, MAIN B; ECS, PRESSURE GROUP 2, MAIN B; ECS, TEMP, MAIN B; ECS, SECONDARY LOOP TRANSDUCER, MAIN B; ECS RAD, CONTROL/HEATERS, MAIN B; BAT RELAY BUS, BAT B; BAT CHARGER, BAT B; INVERTER CONTROL, 2; INVERTER CONTROL, 1; EPS SENSOR SIGNAL, AC1; EPS SENSOR SIGNAL, MAIN B; EPS SENSOR UNIT, AC1; WASTE/POTABLE H2O, MAIN B; INSTRUMENTATION, ESSENTIAL, MAIN B.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay, and leave a little space if you can to the right of these because when we talk about the backup procedure, why then we can just use the same listing, and I'll—I'll tell you open instead of close these circuit breakers, or at least most of them. Over.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. Next, panel 3: TRANSPONDER, PRIMARY; POWER AMPL, to PRIMARY, that's a verify; POWER AMPL, HIGH; MODE, VOICE, to OFF; POWER, SCE, to NORMAL; PMP to NORMAL; S-BAND ANTENNA, OMNI D, that's Delta. Okay, why don't you read that one back?
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. On panel 3: TRANSPONDER to PRIMARY; POWER AMPLIFIER to PRIMARY; POWER AMPL, HIGH; MODE, VOICE, to OFF; POWER, SCE, to NORMAL; PMP to NORMAL; S-BAND ANTENNA, OMNI D, D as in Doggy.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Hey, very good. Okay, panel 225: circuit breaker FLIGHT BUS, MAIN B, to close; circuit breaker CTE, MAIN B, to close. Panel 250: CB BAT C BAT CHARGER/EDS 2 to close.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. I got distracted here. On panel 225: CB FLIGHT BUS, MAIN B, close; and then I lost you after that.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. After that, CB CTE, MAIN B, to close. Next, panel 250: CB BAT C BAT CHARGE/EDS2 to close; CB BAT C POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING to close. Next, panel 275: CB MAIN B, BAT BUS B, to close; CB INVERTER POWER 2, MAIN B, to close. Okay. Incidentally, anything that I've given you up until now is not sequence critical, but from now on, it should be—you should be sure to do it in the sequence we give you. Why don't you read that back, Jack?
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. Let me give you all of panel 225 again. CB FLIGHT BUS, MAIN B, close; CB CTE, MAIN B, close. On panel 250: CB BAT—B BAT CHARGE, that should be BAT C, Charlie, isn't it? BAT CHARGE/EDS2 closed?
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Let me finish. Okay. That's what I thought. BAT Charlie BAT CHARGE/EDS2, close; BAT Baker POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING, closed. On panel 275: CB MAIN B, BAT BUS B, closed; CB INVERTER POWER 2, MAIN B, closed.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. That's correct except for the second circuit breaker on panel 250, which is CB BAT Charlie POWER ENTRY slash POSTLANDING, close.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay, now back to panel 250. CB BAT Bravo POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING, close. Next, MDC 3, AC INVERTER 2 to MAIN B. AC INVERTER 2, AC BUS 1, on up. Next, panel 5: AC INVERTER AC BUS 1 to RESET and then center. Panel 3: UP TLM to COMMAND RESET then OFF. Then select best OMNI. Readback, please.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay, Vance. The following steps are sequence critical. Panel 250: CB BAT B POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING, closed. That's BAT Baker. MDC 3, AC INVERTER 2, to MAIN B; AC INVERTER 2, AC1, on. …
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay, I heard you through AC INVERTER 2, AC BUS 1 to on, and you were cut out by noise. Go ahead.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay, Now comes to one I didn't understand. You said go over to MDC 5 and A in—AC INVERTER, AC BUS 1, RESET, then center, and then back to MDC 3; UP TELEMETRY, COMMAND RESET then OFF, and then select best OMNI.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. Now, when you're in this configuration, the following onboard readouts are required. Panel 3: BAT C voltage, PYRO BAT A voltage, PYRO BAT B voltage, SPS HELIUM PRESSURE. And the following readouts on panel 101: CM RCS injector temperatures, those are positions 5 Charlie, 5 Delta, 6 Alfa, 6 Bravo, 6 Charlie, 6 Delta; and the battery manifold pressure, which is 4 Alfa. And standing by for readback.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. You want me to read out on MDC 3: BAT B voltage, PYRO A voltage, PYRO B voltage, SPS HELIUM PRESSURE. On panel 101: command module RCS injector temperatures; 5 Charlie, 5 Dog, 6 Alfa, 6 Baker, 6 Charlie, 6 Dog. The battery manifold pressure, 4 Alfa.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. Now—that was correct but I want to re-check the very first one, that was BAT Charlie voltage. Is that what you read back?
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. Okay, BAT Charlie voltage. Seems like we're having a difference—I can't understand BAT Charlie from BAT Dog.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. Now, that—that complete procedure for getting into it, as far as getting into it's concerned. What I will give you now is how to back out of it after you're through with your readings. Are you ready to copy?
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. Now you'll back out fairly quickly after you go into this procedure. All we'll need is about 5 minutes of TM, and so if you're ready to copy, here it comes.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Panel 3: POWER AMPL to OFF. Incidentally, copy this down on a piece of scratch paper as I read it, and then later I'll refer back to your first list where you can write things in the right-hand margin.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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TRANSPONDER, OFF. AC INVERTER, 2, to OFF. Okay. Next, panel 250: CB BAT Bravo, POWER ENTRY/ POSTLANDING to open. Stand by 1.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay, Jack. What I just gave you now on the backout is the only thing that's order critical. From here on, you can go to the steps for initiating the procedure, and backtrack. In other words, you should go to each of the panels that I read up and put the circuit breakers back to the base-line configuration—or the switches. Over.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay, now here's—to accent, here's the sequence-critical sets: POWER AMPL, OFF; TRANSPONDER OFF; AC INVERTER, 2, OFF; and the last one on panel 250, CB BAT Baker POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING, open; and then hit the steps in reverse order that you gave them to me, and back out, like then I would start on MDC 3 UP TELEMETRY, OFF—to OFF; and then AC INVERTER—AC1 BUS 1 to OFF; and then AC INVERTER, 2, OFF; AC INVERTER, 2, MAIN B to OFF. Is that the type of order that you want to back out of?
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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That's affirm, but—just for kicks, let's go through these panels again, and I'll give you the—the position, just to make sure there can be no doubt.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. And once again in the—in the area where I said order was not critical, it's still not critical when you back out. But now I'll go ahead. Okay, panel 4: TELCOMM, GROUP 1, AC1, it will not be AC1, it'll go to OFF. Panel 5: all circuit breakers on that panel which were positioned will now come to opened. Over.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. Panel 4: TELCOMM, GROUP 1 will go OFF. Panel 5: all the circuit breakers that we closed will go back to open.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. Panel 3: the first three lines have been taken care of already in my beginning in the backout procedure, so starting with MODE, VOICE, that should go back to VOICE. POWER, SCE, OFF; PMP, OFF; S-BAND ANTENNA, OMNI Bravo. Panel 225: CB FLIGHT BUS, MAIN B, open; CB CTE, MAIN B, open. Read back.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay, Vance. I'm going to have to switch OMNIs. I'm starting to get some static here.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. On panel 3: the first three steps we took care of; MODE, VOICE, to VOICE; POWER, SCE, OFF; POWER PMP to OFF; and S-BAND OMNI would go back to Bravo. Panel 225: FLIGHT BUS, MAIN B, will go open; and CB CTE, MAIN B, will go open.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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That's affirm. The two circuit breakers on panel 250 will go open; the two circuit breakers, panel 275, will go open. Okay, the circuit breakers on panel 250, we took care of already. Panel 3: AC INVERTER, 2, we took care of. AC INVERTER 2, AC BUS 1 should now go OFF. And the remaining two switches on panel 3 we took care of. And “Select best OMNI” remains the same. Okay. Read back.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. The two switches—two circuit breakers on panel 250 will go back to open; the two circuit breakers on panel 275 back to open; the POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING circuit breaker, we already took care of earlier; AC INVERTER 2; we took care of earlier; AC INVERTER 2 to AC BUS 1 will go to OFF; and AC INVERTER, AC BUS 1, we took care of—No, that'll go to OFF; and UP TELEMETRY, COMMAND RESET will go OFF.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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That's correct, Jack. Okay, that's it. And I think we're about ready to go with this procedure whenever you are.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay. First we got to go through that procedure to power the CSM from the LM, is that Charlie?
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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No. No, this is independent of power from the LM. This is a—this is purely a CSM —
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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This is purely a CSM powerup so we can take a look at your telemetry and see how cold the vehicle is and that sort of thing.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay, now I won't—I won't have any voice with you, so—Is that right? You don't want me to get connected up—you want me to just take these readings and come back and tell you what I have, huh?
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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I—we presume, though, that there'll be somebody in the LM that we can call if we have to get word to you.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Oh, yes. There'll be somebody to be standing by, they'll run up into the bedroom and tell me to stop what I'm doing.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay, Houston; Aquarius. Switching watches, and Jack's going up into the command module.
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Okay, Jim. We have four steps here to give you to request that you get back on DOWN VOICE BACKUP, if you're ready to copy?
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. Bit rate to LO bit rate. VOICE, FUNCTION switch to DOWN VOICE BACKUP. POWER AMPs CB, open; RANGE FUNCTION switch in RANGING; that's verify.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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Okay. Bit rate, LO; VOICE FUNCTION, DOWN VOICE BACKUP; POWER AMP S-BAND, open; and RANGE FUNCTION to RANGE; and that's a verify. And I still have the BIOMED on RIGHT here, so we don't have hot mike.
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Jim Lovell (CDR)
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And I'm copying down the reestablishing—PTC maneuver that Charlie gave me. Step 5 was, “When rates are less than 0.05 degrees per second, ATTITUDE CONTROL YAW to PULSE.” And just how am I to get my rates down to 0.05 degrees per second. My—My rate indicator, at the best, is 0.1 of a degree.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Jim, this has been tried in the simulator by Charlie and others, and what they recommend is that you null your rates on the error needles until you see no movement whatsoever, and then wait another couple of minutes, and that should do it. That's the only way we can tell. Over.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. And if you can't attain that, why, of course, just the best you can do. We'll have to give it a try. Maybe it won't be quite like the simulator.
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Jack Swigert (CMP)
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Okay, Vance. I've gone all the way through your procedure—all the way down to “Select best OMNIs,” but I'm not getting any MAIN BUS B voltage and this I don't understand.
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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)
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Okay. You faded out due to noise in the orientation. If you close the POWER AMP circuit breaker, we can hear you better. Over.
Spoken on April 15, 1970, 11:54 p.m. UTC (54 years, 6 months ago). Link to this transcript range is: Tweet
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