Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. As you know, we're going to do this on LM power, so this reflects that.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, and have at it. We—we'd like to have the TM up for about 5 or 10 minutes to look at the data from the CM; look at your temperatures, et cetera. And after that, we'll go back to charging the battery again, and the charge will probably go until around GET 126.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Do you want the same readouts from me that I gave you before?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

That's affirmative, Jack. And just to make sure that there is no mistaking the procedure, it starts out for the backout part: panel 3, POWER AMPL, OFF; TRANSPONDER, OFF; AC INVERTER 2, OFF; then goes to panel 250, et cetera.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

That's—that's the way I read it.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay; going back up into the refrigerator.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Hey, I thought it was the bedroom.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Well, it's got a new name now, because it is about 30 degrees cooler.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. Returning to the deep freeze —

Jack Swigert (CMP)

— Hey, Vance. One thing that I wanted to ask you—is on the stowage list where you have us putting the black-and-white TV camera on top of A-7 in an A … decontamination bag, I was wondering if it would be possible or if you—there would be any problem in putting it into B-6 along with the two 70-millimeter Hasselblad cameras?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jack, I don't think there'll be any problem, if you can get it in, but let us get—work that and get back with you. Okay?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

All right. I was just thinking. I'm trying to get as much weight as possible down there in that LEB. We have no SRCs and then our waste tank is—you know—rather depleted. I think it's about down to 40 percent or so. So I'm trying to get as much L over D as I can, and any heavy items we can get down there, I'd be greatly appreciative of you bringing it to our attention.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. We copy that, and we owe you an answer on your last question.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. And I'm in work, going to give you some telemetry.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. We're receiving CSM data now.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Fred, we just lost data on Aquar—on Jack. Would you have him select best OMNI, please?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Fred, we have enough data; recommend that Jack take off the TM and power back down again, using his backout procedure. Just let us know when he does it.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

And, after that, we'll start the battery charge, and we'll have to know when he starts that.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay. He's starting to back out now. Just out of curiosity, what—did you all get a readout on what the cabin temp was up there?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Yes, we're getting 45 to 46 degrees.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Now you see why we call it the refrigerator.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Yes, it's kind of a cold winter day up there, isn't it? Is it snowing in the command module yet?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Is it snowing in there yet?

Fred Haise (LMP)

Oh, snowing. No—no, not quite. The windows are in pretty bad shape, and I guess the service module—we'll be trying to shoot out of the LM window, because every window in the command module is just covered with water droplets. It's going to take a lot of scrubbing to get those cleared off.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. Understand. Pete says to tell you that you'll have some time on the beach in Samoa to thaw out after this cold experience.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Hey, that sounds great.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Vance, have you all thought about what cameras you wanted to use? Right now, we've got configured a Hasselblad with a 250, and I've got the lunar-surface number 1 Hasselblad, and I've got the lunar surface sequence camera, also, rigged and ready to go. Did you have any other druthers about the …

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

You are referring to the photography of the service module, is that right?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

We have some procedures in work, and I've seen them, Fred. I think pretty soon we'll be shooting them up to you to specify which cameras and settings. But that—that sounds pretty close.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay, you might let them know that, if they hadn't thought of it, that we got this lunar-surface sequence camera on board which has its own battery pack setup, and to shoot quite a few pictures with, and that could also be used for this.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. I know we are planning to use that camera, among others.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay, Houston; Aquarius. Jack has backed out of powering up the CM, and now he's proceeding to restart battery charge on BAT A.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Real good, Fred. We copy.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay. And we are charging battery A now.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. Charging battery A, Fred.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

And, Fred, request now first reading of voltage—BAT A voltage and charger current. Over.

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Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. I can give it to you. I read it right after I started it. BAT A voltage was 39.4 and the current had jumped up to 1.4.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. 39.4 and 1.4. Thanks, Jack.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. How about—You ready for some other readouts, that you wanted there?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. BAT B, 37.0; pyro A, 37.0; pyro B, 37.0; SPS helium pressure, 3400; and nitrogen A and B—just for throwing it in for kicks, 2200 and 2400, respectively; and the injector temperature—stand by- The Sun went down. Okay. The injector temperature, 5 Charlie, 3.9; 5 Dog, 3.2; 6 Alfa, 3.6; 6 Baker, 3.9; 6 Charlie, 3.5; 6 Dog, 3.4; the battery manifold pressure, 1.4.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. We copy all that, Jack. Thank you.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

You say, you figure you are going to be charging BAT A until about 126?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. About 126:30 is an estimate, Jack.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. You figure it will be fully charged then, huh?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Yes. That's right. We'll have all the batteries up to about 116 amps-hours.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

That's better than 99, huh?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

How did all our systems look on …, Vance?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

I didn't hear any complaints, but just a minute; let me make a detailed check.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jack, it's a general statement. It looks like temperatures have cooled off in the ballpark of 6 to 8 degrees cooler than what they were yesterday. Looks like everything is still within tolerance, but we're working up a detailed sheet of temperatures to send up to you, for your interest.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. That sounds good.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Vance, Joe brought up the alinement at EI minus 2 plus 30. Were you going to send up or have a discussion about that later on.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

That's correct, Jack. We just about have procedures in hand detail checklist-type procedures to send to you. In other words, a time line with reference to entry checklist and any changes in the entry checklist. So, if you have a few pages of scratch paper, why, I think we'll have that to you within an hour.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. I'll be standing by.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

One other thing, Jack—You still with me?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

The stowage people have tried out this black-and-white TV camera into B-6 idea and they say even with the lens off, they can't get it in. So, I still recommend that it be stowed where we had it on the list. That's A-7.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jack, request another voltage/readout on BAT A and current on BAT charger.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. The volt 39.3, amp 1.3.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. Copy 39.3 and 1.3.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jack, looks like the LM suit release valve has been bumped to AUTO again; request it —

Jack Swigert (CMP)

How's that right there?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. They say it looks good.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. We need another one of those voltage amps readouts and then maybe we will get off of your back for a little while.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Oh, don't worry about it. I'd like to have you talk with us. Volts and amps coming up.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. Volts 39.4, amps 1.25.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. EECOM's got it duly recorded.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

No. Gee, I don't know what shift he is on. But he comes in later, I guess.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Actually, all the shifts are morning shifts to us.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

The Sun is always shining—All of the shifts are morning shifts to us, because the Sun is always shining.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Just for curiosity's sake, are we still holding entry angle at 6.25?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Jack, right now we're told that it's closer to 6, and—But they would like to track it some more. Looks like your next midcourse will be in the order of 2 to 3 foot per second.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

I just got a good view of the Southern Cross, Alpha and Beta Centauri, and Atria.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. We're still in good shape as far as water goes in the LM?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

The reason I ask is I'm assuming that we are, and I have no idea each time I pressurize the surge tank to get water out of the command module, how much I drop that surge tank and if we are in good shape as far as water goes in the LM, we'd like to fill a couple of drink bags to get some water for drinking purposes.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Have you run out of CM drinking water. yet, Jack?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Oh, no, we've got plenty of drinking water. I think the—I don't have any idea what the surge tank pressure is.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

— and I don't have any —

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Stand by 1, Jack, and we'll give you an indication of how that water situation on the LM is—which is your question. Right?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. But I guess what I was really asking is, if you'd have any violent objections if we filled two drink bags from LM water rather than repressurizing the surge tank.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Also, Jim is asleep up there and we didn't want to bother him, either.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

And, Jack, we'll be changing stations in 1 minute; so, we may have a temporary dropout in COMM.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. Go ahead. Loud and clear.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. We're going to bargain with you on this one. Instead of two, would—wish that you would just get just one bag full. That shouldn't do any harm; however —

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

— we are not all that fat on water that we want to do any drinking out of the LM as a regular thing after this one bag. So would you let us know when you get the water out and give us a mark on it so we can watch the TM. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Fred-o is about to withdraw the water now.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. We've withdrawn—oh, about 8 ounces of water.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. How's it taste?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

It's—good. It's not quite as gaseous as that in the command module.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Apollo 13, Houston—or rather, Aquarius, Houston. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Hey, Jack, we need another reading. Volts and amps.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. They're coming up.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Vance, you won't believe this, but Fred-o says it's 39.4 and 1.245.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Our EECOM is recording those numbers. Charlie Dumas, this time.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Not changing very fast, is it?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. 953 and 6068 on velocity, per FIDO.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Houston, Aquarius. Over

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Are the flowers in bloom in Houston?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

No, not yet. Still must be winter.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Suspicions confirmed.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Yes, I doubt if they will be blooming even Saturday, when you return.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

I concur.

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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Hey, Jim, we have some photo information to pass up to you. Discussed this briefly with Fred earlier. It's instructions or suggestions for which photos—which cameras and lenses to use during your service module photography. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. We have three cameras here, two of them to be used for picture taking from the LM, one to be used from the number 5 window of the CSM. First, I'll hit the LM cameras. And this camera that I mention now has first priority. It's considered the one to give you the best results. That's the 70-millimeter DC Reseau camera, Hasselblad, that is, with the 80-millimeter lens, from box A-13. Suggest fresh magazine of 3400 black-and-white film.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Suggest either magazine R or magazine S from A-13. Transfer all of this to the LM and recommend the following settings: LM/DC/80/BW 3400 (f:5.6 at a 250th).

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

And that's all for that one.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay, Vance. Let me see if I have it here. For the LM, want to use the 70-millimeter DC Hasselblad 80-millimeter lens in A-13, using 3400 black-and-white film MAGs R or S. Prepare to take camera to the LM, and the setting would be the LM/DC/80/BW 3400 (f:5.6) at a 250th.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

That's correct. Okay. Next: the next camera—Stand by 1. I've got noise here. Okay. The next LM—The next camera for the LM will be the 16-millimeter, and these photos are considered to be priority 3. Okay. One, get the 16-millimeter DAC and powerpack from A-8. Get the 10-millimeter lens, and remove it—remove the 10-millimeter lens, and take the 18-millimeter lens from B-3 and attach it to the camera. And attach the power cable transfer to the LM, set frame rate at 12 frames per second, and the same data line that I gave you before reads this way this time. LM/DAC/18/CEX, battery (f:8 and 1/250th). Okay. Now looking at these two cameras in the LM, it's recommended that you use the 16-millimeter for the first 2-1/2 minutes and then switch to the 70-millimeter. That's partly because the frame's been—or the—They've been optimized for closer and longer range. Okay. Read back, please.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay, Vance. Essentially, what you wanted to use as far as the movie camera in the LM goes, is our lunar sequence camera which is attached to the powerpack. We use the 18-millimeter lens, set it at 12 frames per second … f:8 at 250th of a second.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Would you believe that we have a correction now to the last camera I gave you? Correct that 18-millimeter lens to 75-millimeter lens.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. The 18-millimeter to the 75-millimeter lens. Okay.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Right. Okay. Next for the command module pictures, it may be a little hard to see the service module from the command module, but if you can see it, it will be through window 5, people down here think. Recommend for that the CM 70-millimeter. These photos have priority 2. So this is 70-millimeter EL, with—which has the 80-millimeter attached, and this is all in B-3. Take off the 80-millimeter lens and attach the 250-millimeter lens. And the 250-millimeter lens can be found in U-4. Use CEX film from A-13. Ring sight from A-7, and these pictures will be f:8 at a 250th. And I think probably by now you probably all have—already have these cameras configured, and this may be redundant information, but here it is anyway. Over.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay, Vance. You're right. We do have cameras almost configured like you said. For the command module, you think that the EL with the 250 lens, CEX film, f:8 at a 250th is the best bet, and you're saying now that where you think you'll see it is out window 5? Is that it?

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. My procedure, now, after service module JETT is going to be to pitch up, in order to try to get the service module into the—to get the center window in view of the service module, which we are going to have somebody there—to photograph. Why do you think window 5 will be it?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Stand by on that one. This is a question of geometry, and I'll get right back.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jim, regarding window 5, I have a drawing here; and, when you're docked, you have approximately a 60-degree angle between the Z-axes of the two spacecraft. It appears that peering out window 5, you would be looking at the rendezvous radar on top of the LM which would, if you pitched, more or less give you a view of the service module. That is, if you pitched, so—from—and I think that this has been run by quite a few folks here; so, offhand, I can't see where any other window would be as good or perhaps even possible.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. I understand. Yes, you're right. When we look out window 5, we can see rendezvous radar, and we'll try—We'll try window 5.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. It presumes, though, that there has to be a pitch to be able to see it. You guys sound a lot more rested today.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Well, I just went back and sacked out for an hour or so and didn't get back up.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

And, Jim, Houston. We really are going to get those checklists up to you.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jim, it's time for readings on the battery charging again. Request the BAT A voltage and the charger amps. Over.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. Stand by, Vance.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. We have no more water in the potable tank. We tried to get some more out a few minutes ago, and there isn't any.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Understand you ran out of water in the CM potable tank.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Over.